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Bodacious Benny wrote:What pisses me off is all the people saying they feel sorry for Moyes. He'll get a £5m pay off and never have to work again if he didn't want to.

Being a PL manager must be the least stressful job going. You're guaranteed a multimillion pound payout if you're fired. The ones under real pressure are managers around League One and League Two. If they lost their job they'd be struggling to pay their mortgages. That's pressure.
More money does not equal less stress or unhappiness
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Bodacious Benny wrote:What pisses me off is all the people saying they feel sorry for Moyes. He'll get a £5m pay off and never have to work again if he didn't want to.

Being a PL manager must be the least stressful job going. You're guaranteed a multimillion pound payout if you're fired. The ones under real pressure are managers around League One and League Two. If they lost their job they'd be struggling to pay their mortgages. That's pressure.
I don't feel sorry for him because he knew exactly what he was getting into.

He was offered the chance of one of the biggest roles in English football and accepted it. Sure he came, he saw and he f***ed it up but most others would have as well. Replacing the most successful football manager in England ever was never going to end with just one successor to Fergies crown, carrying on where he left off. Someone had to be a 'fall guy'.

The door is now open to a manager who simply has to better than Moyes.
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I want curly fries too wrote:
Bodacious Benny wrote:What pisses me off is all the people saying they feel sorry for Moyes. He'll get a £5m pay off and never have to work again if he didn't want to.

Being a PL manager must be the least stressful job going. You're guaranteed a multimillion pound payout if you're fired. The ones under real pressure are managers around League One and League Two. If they lost their job they'd be struggling to pay their mortgages. That's pressure.
More money does not equal less stress or unhappiness
Must be comforting to know that no matter how badly you do that you and your family will be comfortable for generations to come.
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Bodacious Benny wrote:
I want curly fries too wrote:
More money does not equal less stress or unhappiness
Must be comforting to know that no matter how badly you do that you and your family will be comfortable for generations to come.
That's not the main reasoning of doing the job for most though. Sure you get the odd people who are money motivated but most just want to be as successful as possible and strive to be successful and will therefore put themselves under massive amounts of stress to be successful. Not to mention the stress of having a football clubs and its fans hopes on you succeeding. It's an intense high pressure job which makes it extremely stressful.

If he just cared about the money he could do a stress free job like punditry or something and get paid loads for doing nothing.
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I'm not saying Moyes is a money chaser, far from it. My point is that there is more 'real' pressure on managers lower down the football pyramid who's actual ability to keep a roof over their head and feed their family is dependent on them keeping their job. That's real stress. The stress in which PL managers operate is far removed from that world, and essentially stress by choice rather than necessity.
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The Chosen One,
Has now gone,
Told to get on his bike,
And take a hike,

When the dressing room hairdryer,
Decided it was time to retire,
David Moyes to fill his post,
Was what he wanted most,

His inheritance it seems,
Was to leave a team,
Made up of has beens,
And some drama queens,

Officials no longer played,
In the Fergie time zone,
Nor suffered touchline tirade,
For which he was known,

With dawning realisation,
To fans frustration,
This management translation,
Meant lower expectation,

No continuing boasts,
Nor winning toasts,
No city centre parade,
With trophies displayed,

How eager the press,
Foretold of egress,
No time to redress,
The lack of success,

Not the end of a career,
He will no doubt reappear,
In the bookmakers view,
To replace Alan Pardew.
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Caer Newydd wrote:The Chosen One,
Has now gone,
Told to get on his bike,
And take a hike,

When the dressing room hairdryer,
Decided it was time to retire,
David Moyes to fill his post,
Was what he wanted most,

His inheritance it seems,
Was to leave a team,
Made up of has beens,
And some drama queens,

Officials no longer played,
In the Fergie time zone,
Nor suffered touchline tirade,
For which he was known,

With dawning realisation,
To fans frustration,
This management translation,
Meant lower expectation,

No continuing boasts,
Nor winning toasts,
No city centre parade,
With trophies displayed,

How eager the press,
Foretold of egress,
No time to redress,
The lack of success,

Not the end of a career,
He will no doubt reappear,
In the bookmakers view,
To replace Alan Pardew.
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Rooney arriving for training to learn of Moyes departure ( but what the f*** is his Spiderman evil character mask doing in the back?) <yikes>

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<laugh>

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I'd imagine League 2 salaries range from around 20k to 40kpa, probably with bonuses. Even if a manager on a four year contract earning 20k got sacked a year in they'd have to give him 60k severence pay. Providing he doesn't live in a mansion he should be ok in terms of paying the bills. As someone mentioned, if they don't like the job security they could always get another job.
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Heisen wrote:I'd imagine League 2 salaries range from around 20k to 40kpa, probably with bonuses. Even if a manager on a four year contract earning 20k got sacked a year in they'd have to give him 60k severence pay. Providing he doesn't live in a mansion he should be ok in terms of paying the bills. As someone mentioned, if they don't like the job security they could always get another job.
Not quite enough to mean that you don't have to worry about finding another job, unlike if you had a multimillion pound payout.

As for getting another job, if football is all they've ever known (by playing and then progressing to coaching and management) then it's not as simple as it sounds to switch careers with zero experience in any other walk of life.

All in all, I'd be ecstatic to be an under pressure PL manager.
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As mentioned elsewhere but worth repeating here, last time a long standing Man U manager retired (busby) they chopped and changed a few new ones and then got relegated. Here's hoping.
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DarrasHallStalker wrote:As mentioned elsewhere but worth repeating here, last time a long standing Man U manager retired (busby) they chopped and changed a few new ones and then got relegated. Here's hoping.
I always bet £1 every season that Man Utd get relegated.
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Sobbie Ravage wrote:
DarrasHallStalker wrote:As mentioned elsewhere but worth repeating here, last time a long standing Man U manager retired (busby) they chopped and changed a few new ones and then got relegated. Here's hoping.
I always bet £1 every season that Man Utd get relegated.
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Sobbie Ravage wrote:
DarrasHallStalker wrote:As mentioned elsewhere but worth repeating here, last time a long standing Man U manager retired (busby) they chopped and changed a few new ones and then got relegated. Here's hoping.
I always bet £1 every season that Man Utd get relegated.
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