Newcastle Utd 0 - 3 Sunderland - 01/02/14

[LaFraise92]

Sans Cabaye - sans espoir ?
Newcastle United vs Sunderland AFC, 1 February 2014

So. We grimace our faces at the picture of our dreamboat sailing free from the tempestuous waters of Tyneside for sunnier and richer shores, we get back into a very British mentality after three years of Continental dreaming, and we face our oldest, most bitter rivals just as it seems our season is all but done for.



Newcastle and Sunderland first met in 1883, with the first competitive cup match coming in 1888, when Jack the Ripper was roaming the streets and Newcastle weren't "united" yet.

Since then, the teams have met a total of 143 times - in League, both Cups and in playoffs (never in Europe, thanks to one side letting us down) - ending up with this, the 144th edition of one of the fiercest derbies in British football.

The Past


Despite Sunderland's triumph in the first Derby in 1888, which ended 2-0 to the unwashed, Newcastle have quite considerably taken the lion's share over the past 121 years; in terms of wins, Newcastle have 53 (including 11 league doubles) to Sunderland's 45. However, the last five years have seen possibly the most flammable and fierce derbies in a generation with the emergence of TV coverage and removal of restrictions on away fans as were seen in the 1990s. 2011 saw the Halloween Derby in which Newcastle trounced their Wearside counterparts 5-1 with Kevin Nolan getting a hat-trick. However, the "Black Cats" struck back with the so-called Dirty Knees Derby under short-term disgrace Paulo di Canio in which Newcastle folded to a 3-0 loss. The Toon are looking for their first derby win since mid-2011 when Ryan Taylor put the ball in the mackems' net.



Last 5
27-Oct-13 Sunderland 2 - 1 Newcastle
13-Apr-13 Newcastle 0 - 3 Sunderland
21-Oct-12 Sunderland 1 - 1 Newcastle
04-Mar-12 Newcastle 1 - 1 Sunderland
20-Aug-11 Sunderland 0 - 1 Newcastle

Team News
Newcastle confirmed on Wednesday night the departure of midfielder Yohan Cabaye and minutes later the loan signing of Luuk de Jong, 23-year old Dutch striker, who will be looking to write off some bad form in the Bundesliga and who is presumably available for selection for Saturday's game. He may find his services called up early thanks to the presumptive three-match suspension for fellow loan striker Loic Remy. Both Yoan Gouffran and Papiss Cisse missed Tuesday's game against Norwich due to injury and it is unclear whether they will be returning in time for the match. Captain Fabricio Coloccini, Ryan Taylor, and Gael Bigirimana will miss out due to injury. The Toon come into the derby on mixed form, having lost three, won one and drawn one in their last five matches. They sit 8th in the table.

Sunderland, meanwhile, have three new players to blood against the Magpies - keeper Oscar Ustari, defender Santiago Vergini and left back Marcus Alonso. They are only missing keeper Kieron Westwood and centre back Carlos Cuellar, and come in with better league form than their adversaries - having won two, drawn two and lost one in their last five. They confirmed the signing of Argentinian striker Ignacio Scocco on Thursday morning.

If any new players were to be signed by either team before lunchtime on Friday, they would be eligible to play.

Referee


Staffordshire ref Phil Dowd will be the man in the middle at St James' Park. He famously refereed the 5-1 derby, and his matches this season have included the 2-1 win against West Brom, the 3-2 loss at Everton and the 0-0 early-season draw against West Ham.

Weather
The BBC predicts a damp Saturday afternoon on Tyneside, with sunshine and showers and a temperature of around 5C.

Betting

We Say

They Say

Joint Statement by a coalition of NUFC and SAFC fan clubs

"Two weeks ago fans’ groups and fanzines from Newcastle United and Sunderland launched a successful joint campaign to say “no” to bubble matches.
"Now both sets of fans are linking up to restore pride in the Tyne-Wear derby, championing a white-hot atmosphere and sporting rivalry while rejecting violence.
"Recent seasons have seen an unwelcome level of hatred and disorder around derby games.
"Genuine fans don't want the authorities to have any excuse to cut ticket allocations or restrict travel in future seasons, we just want a game to remember.
"We can keep the passion, but lose the poison. Let's make this a derby to be proud of."
Both Newcastle United and Sunderland AFC have also given their backing to "A Derby To Be Proud Of".

[Holystone...]

Nice OP.

Latest derby joke...."what's the fastest way to get a c*** wet? Throw Cattermole in the Tyne"

[Southern Mag]

What the f*** do the first 4 words mean? I cba to translate it

[Jaiston]

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[dls]

What the f*** do the first 4 words mean? I cba to translate it

No Cabaye - No hope.

[Remember Colo]

Not sure why everyone is so damn pessimistic about this weekend's match. Their results have improved, but they've still often looked terrible getting them. Yes they've won the past 2, and the 3-0 was embarrassing, but I definitely think we have the better team, we've had a far better season, and the sample size of matches over the past 2-3 years is too small to think it matters.

[Southern Mag]

What the **** do the first 4 words mean? I cba to translate it

No Cabaye - No hope.

[Jaiston]

Not sure why everyone is so damn pessimistic about this weekend's match. Their results have improved, but they've still often looked terrible getting them. Yes they've won the past 2, and the 3-0 was embarrassing, but I definitely think we have the better team, we've had a far better season, and the sample size of matches over the past 2-3 years is too small to think it matters.

Possible injures, Cabaye gone, Remy f***ed up, inability to score.

[dls]

Can't wait until after the game and everyone starts complaining that we have too many French players again

"We never would have lost that game if Barton and Nolan were playing" Is my favourite

[Jaiston]

Can't wait until after the game and everyone starts complaining that we have too many French players again

"We never would have lost that game if Barton and Nolan were playing" Is my favourite

Thankfully I'll be in town so will miss the mass hysteria of the match day thread and the aftermath

[Remember Colo]

Not sure why everyone is so damn pessimistic about this weekend's match. Their results have improved, but they've still often looked terrible getting them. Yes they've won the past 2, and the 3-0 was embarrassing, but I definitely think we have the better team, we've had a far better season, and the sample size of matches over the past 2-3 years is too small to think it matters.

Possible injures, Cabaye gone, Remy f***ed up, inability to score.

People have been talking this way about the match for the last month or two though, long before the injuries, sale or suspension. I understand the new concerns

[Ibra]

Can't wait until after the game and everyone starts complaining that we have too many French players again

"We never would have lost that game if Barton and Nolan were playing" Is my favourite

Thankfully I'll be in town so will miss the mass hysteria of the match day thread and the aftermath

[Little Lion Man]

What the **** do the first 4 words mean? I cba to translate it

No Cabaye - No hope.

Google translates it as 'Without Cabaye - hopeless'

Edit: Which is practically the same thing. Why the fudge did I even say anything

[Minty Fresh]

This picture

[Southern Mag]

This picture

The two guys shaking hands at the front

[RobLeesMagnificence]

I'm not sure why, but I've never been more confident about winning a Derby.

[LaFraise92]

No Cabaye - No hope.

Google translates it as 'Without Cabaye - hopeless'

Edit: Which is practically the same thing. Why the fudge did I even say anything

As a French speaker I'd say the best translation might be "Hopeless without Cabaye?" 'sans' means 'without', so another possible translation would be "No hope without Cabaye?"

[TJR]

Is it not "Without Cabaye - without hope?"?

[RobLeesMagnificence]

by having "-" seperating "sans Cabaye" and "Sans Espoir" it means that they are not part of the same sentence, so should be taken as individual statements essentially.

Without Cabeye - Without Hope is a perfect translation of it for the context.

Sans Espoir can also mean Hopeless, which is the same thing.

[KingoStarr]

by having "-" seperating "sans Cabaye" and "Sans Espoir" it means that they are not part of the same sentence, so should be taken as individual statements essentially.

Without Cabeye - Without Hope is a perfect translation of it for the context.

Sans Espoir can also mean Hopeless, which is the same thing.

Thats wrong? Surely the '-' in Sans Cabaye - Sans Espoir is an independent clause, due to the fact No Cabaye = No Hope Hope is the thought and Cabaye the independent clause

Anyway even if I am wrong, a hyphen/dash doesn't end a sentence