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The only argument Ronaldo has over Messi is that he has played in the PL. But having seen the way the likes of Silva and Aguero have settled into the league, I have no doubt in my mind that Messi could do the same.

ALF wrote:

Pull the Gosling One wrote:
Because CRonaldo has played for the two biggest clubs

So? Because Messi is loyal people use it against him.

Makes me laugh when people complain about loyalty...when Messi is loyal, people complain.

Messi has scored goals and played brilliantly against England's top sides. Of course he could play in England.

ALF wrote:Messi has scored goals and played brilliantly against England's top sides. Of course he could play in England.

He'd get destroyed at stoke,westham and chelsea.

Sorry to be off topic about the messi/ronaldo debate but what time is the senegal ivory coast match on?

Garrus Vakarian wrote:Sorry to be off topic about the messi/ronaldo debate but what time is the senegal ivory coast match on?

7:30 I think, now piss off and go do some calibrations.

DavideDuck wrote:

Garrus Vakarian wrote:Sorry to be off topic about the messi/ronaldo debate but what time is the senegal ivory coast match on?

7:30 I think, now piss off and go do some calibrations.

Demba Blaster wrote:

ALF wrote:Messi has scored goals and played brilliantly against England's top sides. Of course he could play in England.

He'd get destroyed at stoke,westham and chelsea.

Doubt it.

Of course there are more physical games than others, but the fact is there's a limit to how physical teams can go. If they can't properly defend or beat Messi when he has the ball then shoving him off it and sending him flying is just gonna concede a foul.

Even against teams with big, robust players, his still uses his technique to dance around them and his footballing brain to find good spaces. Stoke is in fact an example in itself how brute strength alone is no match for technique and skill.

I prefer Ronaldo to Messi because he has power and aerial ability that Messi doesn't.

Cheik the room wrote:I prefer Ronaldo to Messi because he has power and aerial ability that Messi doesn't.

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Interesting to note that even though Messi and Ronaldo are keeping up with each others goalscoring levels, Messi has 5 total assists alongside those goals whilst Ronaldo has zilch.

People say that Ronaldo is the more 'complete' player but I believe it's Messi. He is a scorer, creator and engine of the side.

ALF wrote:

Pull the Gosling One wrote:
Because CRonaldo has played for the two biggest clubs

So? Because Messi is loyal people use it against him.

You misunderstand me.
I'm saying the debate exists because CRonaldo has played for the two teams with the biggest fan base in the world, therefore more people to claim he is better.
For the record there is no argument in my mind as to how much better Messi is.

Ronaldo is an absolute phenomenal players and in many era's would be the best player in the world, Messi however in my opinion will end up being the best player ever to have played the game in the next 5 years.

Chappaz wrote:

Demba Blaster wrote: He'd get destroyed at stoke,westham and chelsea.

Doubt it.

Of course there are more physical games than others, but the fact is there's a limit to how physical teams can go. If they can't properly defend or beat Messi when he has the ball then shoving him off it and sending him flying is just gonna concede a foul.

Even against teams with big, robust players, his still uses his technique to dance around them and his footballing brain to find good spaces. Stoke is in fact an example in itself how brute strength alone is no match for technique and skill.

This. Look at the way Silva, Aguero, Mata etc have fitted into the league. All of similar stature and all top players who have performed well.

Chappaz wrote:

Demba Blaster wrote: He'd get destroyed at stoke,westham and chelsea.

Doubt it.

Of course there are more physical games than others, but the fact is there's a limit to how physical teams can go. If they can't properly defend or beat Messi when he has the ball then shoving him off it and sending him flying is just gonna concede a foul.

Even against teams with big, robust players, his still uses his technique to dance around them and his footballing brain to find good spaces. Stoke is in fact an example in itself how brute strength alone is no match for technique and skill.

I'm not sure which match it was, might have been Arsenal had someone man marking Messi. They were pushing him and snapping at him alot sometimes giving away a free. but that was in the middle of the pitch and wasnt that much of a threat.

For large amounts of time Messi was anonymous during the match, until the lad marking him got tired.Point is if you get someone like Yaya Toure on him, I think you would be able to make messi less of a threat.

In this debate it's worth remembering that Messi is playing a unique position in football, the only true false 9 IMO, he has had no references to learn the position and still scores so many himself. It's quite incredible.

Demba Blaster wrote:

Chappaz wrote:
Doubt it.

Of course there are more physical games than others, but the fact is there's a limit to how physical teams can go. If they can't properly defend or beat Messi when he has the ball then shoving him off it and sending him flying is just gonna concede a foul.

Even against teams with big, robust players, his still uses his technique to dance around them and his footballing brain to find good spaces. Stoke is in fact an example in itself how brute strength alone is no match for technique and skill.

I'm not sure which match it was, might have been Arsenal had someone man marking Messi. They were pushing him and snapping at him alot sometimes giving away a free. but that was in the middle of the pitch and wasnt that much of a threat.

For large amounts of time Messi was anonymous during the match, until the lad marking him got tired.Point is if you get someone like Yaya Toure on him, I think you would be able to make messi less of a threat.

Yaya Toure's a f***ing monster though, even if he could keep Messi quiet he'd only need to play him twice a season.

can we all agree that they aren't in the league ben arfa

Sorry to interrupt but , to buy an away ticket with a ST do you just need the STnumber or do you need the card

We all know who the Best player in the world is:

Tiote with his usual shots.