You can bring up dictionary definition's all you like, but in the real world a headbutt causes serious damage. It's impossible for one word to cover such extremes of violence, it's like only having one word to cover everything from flicking someone to chopping their arm off.Goat wrote:By definition, it is a head butt.Cheik the room wrote: This. As I've already said, anyone who even considers referring to this as a "headbutt", has never seen the effects of a real one. It's an insult to victims to call this a headbutt, hardly surprising with the melodramatic, politically correct, drama-hungry nature of a large proportion of today's society in this country.
The definition of "butt" is to deliver a push or blow. Goats pushing their heads together in a fight means that the goats are "butting" their heads.
In reality you may associate head butts with causing serious damage, but it is the right thing to call it. It's a head butt. Just an extremely weak one.
Your thoughts on the Pardew-Meyler incident?
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Re: Your thoughts on the Pardew-Meyler incident?
"Yeah, because when they shout go, go, go, go, take him on, take him on, you know, you, you can fly, you go and you try because it's a joy to play in front of our supporters."
Re: Your thoughts on the Pardew-Meyler incident?
It's still a headbutt, albeit a soft one.Cheik the room wrote:You can bring up dictionary definition's all you like, but in the real world a headbutt causes serious damage. It's impossible for one word to cover such extremes of violence, it's like only having one word to cover everything from flicking someone to chopping their arm off.Goat wrote:
By definition, it is a head butt.
The definition of "butt" is to deliver a push or blow. Goats pushing their heads together in a fight means that the goats are "butting" their heads.
In reality you may associate head butts with causing serious damage, but it is the right thing to call it. It's a head butt. Just an extremely weak one.
Re: Your thoughts on the Pardew-Meyler incident?
It was a s*** headbutt, much like if I lightly punched your arm it would still be a punch, regardless of damage caused.

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Re: Your thoughts on the Pardew-Meyler incident?
Fine, my issue then is with the dictionary definition of headbutt being far too broad 
"Yeah, because when they shout go, go, go, go, take him on, take him on, you know, you, you can fly, you go and you try because it's a joy to play in front of our supporters."
Re: Your thoughts on the Pardew-Meyler incident?
This. It's the same if you jokingly kick someone softly in the arse. It's still a kick.Halsenberg wrote:It was a s*** headbutt, much like if I lightly punched your arm it would still be a punch, regardless of damage caused.
The label of headbutt is correct even if it sounds weird because there wasn't any damage. The definition is correct but people's individual associations with the word will vary.
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It doesn't matter if you full on s*** yourself or just a small dollop pops out, you've still shat yourself either way.
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I'm sure PSA can circulate guidance confirming this.Captain Obvious wrote:It doesn't matter if you full on s*** yourself or just a small dollop pops out, you've still shat yourself either way.
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It should be their new mottoBodacious Benny wrote:I'm sure PSA can circulate guidance confirming this.Captain Obvious wrote:It doesn't matter if you full on s*** yourself or just a small dollop pops out, you've still shat yourself either way.
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Re: Your thoughts on the Pardew-Meyler incident?
I will confirm that he's right.Bodacious Benny wrote:I'm sure PSA can circulate guidance confirming this.Captain Obvious wrote:It doesn't matter if you full on s*** yourself or just a small dollop pops out, you've still shat yourself either way.
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