Transfer Rumours/Wishlist

[Slim999]

The league is a complete farce,

It is .

The new rules coming in in 1 year also wont make any difference ( it allows player spend to be 85% of revenue)

Do with Manc & ManU having 700m spend Vs ours at 350 - we can basically spend half as much

The better news is that our rev is increasing

If we can get into CL 2nd stage- and get 5th spot in CL we will be pushing up towards £500m

Thr gap is slowly closing to Arsebal , Chelsea, Liverpool


24-25 Nos

1 Manchester City £715m – £730m
2 Manchester Utd £650m – £670m
3 Liverpool £600m – £620m
4 Arsenal £550m – £570m
5 Tottenham £530m – £550m
6 Chelsea £460m – £480m
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7 Newcastle Utd £315m – £330m

[Murphy's Marvellous Grin]

It's not one that got away really, as he didn't seem particularly keen to join us. Had a higher target set for himself, which you can't really blame him.

Plus the wages that would blow us out the water, the rumour is 20m signing on fee as well as the 20m to palace

[TJR]

£20m plus wages that we'd never meet, I can't count this as "the one that got away" other than maybe at the time of our very initial interest. Liverpool and Man City trump us.

Supposedly on 300k a week, we'd have probably only went as high as half of that. Plus I dread to think what the agent fees are. Even if we could match that, players are still going to choose Man City over us.

[bodacious benny]

Oscar Bobb linked with Fulham and Spurs for about £35m. Potentially exciting player, but high fee for limited PL experience and off the back of a bad injury. Think he only has 1 league goal for them....and who did he score against....us

[Sanchino]

Oscar Bobb linked with Fulham and Spurs for about £35m. Potentially exciting player, but high fee for limited PL experience and off the back of a bad injury. Think he only has 1 league goal for them....and who did he score against....us

Yeah. Would have taken the risk on a loan with buy option till end of season but unlikely we'll get anyone now.. looking like we'll have to make do with what we have right now. Will that be enough? Doubt it.. but leaves us with more money to spend for the summer I hope? Lots of big questions need answering this summer and if we want to get to the next stage of being a ''elite'' side competing for trophies and consistently challenging the top 5/4 eventually then for the title then we need some serious QUALITY recruitment regardless if it's overseas or domestic transfers as right now we'll be lucky to get any form of Europe and a trophy looking unlikely this season too. Maybe a season without Europe is what we need so we can concentrate on the league / domestic trophies, playing 2 times a week is hammering our squad when we don't have the quality to challenge on all fronts compared to Chelsea/Arsenal/City/Liverpool's depth it shows.

[overseasTOON]

That was an under the radar transfer!!

From the BBC:

On how team-mates can help Nick Woltemade and Yohan Cabaye

[Colback's Orange Tufts]

That was an under the radar transfer!!

From the BBC:

On how team-mates can help Nick Woltemade and Yohan Cabaye

They spelled Kebab wrong

[bodacious benny]

That was an under the radar transfer!!

From the BBC:

On how team-mates can help Nick Woltemade and Yohan Cabaye

Lazy bastard is only 40, should still be playing

Milner is the same age

[bodacious benny]

Not us, but Andy Robertson looks to be leaving Anfield (Spurs front runners).

Out of contract in summer but would be a surprise if Liverpool left themselves with just Kerkez for the rest of the season as he's been a bit s***.

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Not us, but Andy Robertson looks to be leaving Anfield (Spurs front runners).

Out of contract in summer but would be a surprise if Liverpool left themselves with just Kerkez for the rest of the season as he's been a bit s***.

When I think about it I wonder if it’s one the club has considered - especially on a free with a PSR lens. He’s a great pro and someone I could see Howe admiring for what he’d bring on and off the pitch. Kieran Trippier joined at a similar age.

[Sanchino]

Not us, but Andy Robertson looks to be leaving Anfield (Spurs front runners).

Out of contract in summer but would be a surprise if Liverpool left themselves with just Kerkez for the rest of the season as he's been a bit s***.

When I think about it I wonder if it’s one the club has considered - especially on a free with a PSR lens. He’s a great pro and someone I could see Howe admiring for what he’d bring on and off the pitch. Kieran Trippier joined at a similar age.

Definitely take, similar to Trippier in a way but on the left-hand side. Bags of experience and a true pro. Looking like Spurs are winning the race though but he'll be exactly what the doctor orders when we need a solid experienced reliable pro to come on for Hall or start if Hall is injured/needs a rest.

[bodacious benny]

On the pitch could be great - but likely very high wages for an aging player make it unlikely given current constraints I’d say. Spurs also pretty much guarantee him first team football, would he leave rotation at Liverpool for rotation here? Unlikely.

[Remember Colo]

On the pitch could be great - but likely very high wages for an aging player make it unlikely given current constraints I’d say. Spurs also pretty much guarantee him first team football, would he leave rotation at Liverpool for rotation here? Unlikely.

I'd only say that Tottenham are notorious for their lower wages, which is why they have the lowest wage-to-turnover ratio in the league, so I can't imagine if he goes there it'll be for the same money he was making at Liverpool.

[bodacious benny]

On the pitch could be great - but likely very high wages for an aging player make it unlikely given current constraints I’d say. Spurs also pretty much guarantee him first team football, would he leave rotation at Liverpool for rotation here? Unlikely.

I'd only say that Tottenham are notorious for their lower wages, which is why they have the lowest wage-to-turnover ratio in the league, so I can't imagine if he goes there it'll be for the same money he was making at Liverpool.

Do many players willingly ever take pay cuts? He’s reportedly on £160,000 a week and I’d be surprised if it was much lower than that if he went to spurs. Could easily get a move to a decent size European club for a few seasons on good money. You might be right, but I just can’t underestimate the greed of top flight football.

[Remember Colo]

I'd only say that Tottenham are notorious for their lower wages, which is why they have the lowest wage-to-turnover ratio in the league, so I can't imagine if he goes there it'll be for the same money he was making at Liverpool.

Do many players willingly ever take pay cuts? He’s reportedly on £160,000 a week and I’d be surprised if it was much lower than that if he went to spurs. Could easily get a move to a decent size European club for a few seasons on good money. You might be right, but I just can’t underestimate the greed of top flight football.

Maybe not. But, when you're at one of the highest paying clubs in the world already, for some players they'll have no choice to perhaps take less money. Though I wouldn't necessarily expect at that wage that he'll have to take a meaningful cut - especially on a free.

[bodacious benny]

Do many players willingly ever take pay cuts? He’s reportedly on £160,000 a week and I’d be surprised if it was much lower than that if he went to spurs. Could easily get a move to a decent size European club for a few seasons on good money. You might be right, but I just can’t underestimate the greed of top flight football.

Maybe not. But, when you're at one of the highest paying clubs in the world already, for some players they'll have no choice to perhaps take less money. Though I wouldn't necessarily expect at that wage that he'll have to take a meaningful cut - especially on a free.

One things for sure, they probably wouldn’t deal with us anyway after the the rat saga

And I guess we’re competitors with them for a top 5 spot in the PL, whereas spurs aren’t.

[Slim999]

I think - given that Man U and Chelsea appear to be back on the rise - and given that this means 6th is probably the best we can achieve this term ....

... I'd say it's time to address the elephant in the room.. a few s actually

1. Given PSR rules - we CANNOT buy our way into the top 4

2. Mitchell was correct - our recruitment set up isn't fit for purpose.

Look at the players Sunderland brought in this term and how it galvanised them.

We need to use our status as the richest club in the world to.

A. Have a scouting network with many tentacles befitting of that
B. Widen the net in our player search ( and stop focusing on UK so much)
C. Build up our academy & youth set ups to be on a par with the best in the country

We lost Issak last term - likely Tonali this , perhaps Tino

We need a reserve team / bench bubbling with young talent- ( like Chelsea ) - to bring on and protect the currently overworked legs of our first team

[bodacious benny]

I think - given that Man U and Chelsea appear to be back on the rise - and given that this means 6th is probably the best we can achieve this term ....

... I'd say it's time to address the elephant in the room.. a few s actually

1. Given PSR rules - we CANNOT buy our way into the top 4

2. Mitchell was correct - our recruitment set up isn't fit for purpose.

Look at the players Sunderland brought in this term and how it galvanised them.

We need to use our status as the richest club in the world to.

A. Have a scouting network with many tentacles befitting of that
B. Widen the net in our player search ( and stop focusing on UK so much)
C. Build up our academy & youth set ups to be on a par with the best in the country

We lost Issak last term - likely Tonali this , perhaps Tino

We need a reserve team / bench bubbling with young talent- ( like Chelsea ) - to bring on and protect the currently overworked legs of our first team

Don't disagree on any of that, but obviously that's all for long term benefit. Especially building up the academy (which seems to go through managers like nobodies business), even if we got that right now, it would be 10 years likely before we saw much benefit - tho of course something we'd love to see. Expanding the scouting network too will take time.

I'm not sure what our realistic aim is this season now. Our next 5 league games are:

Liverpool away - guaranteed loss.
Brentford home - MUST WIN
Spurs away - probably lose/draw
City away - guaranteed loss
Everton home - then becomes a must win

Given how tight the table is we will probably be in the bottom half before we go into facing a resurgent Man U at home and then a now in-form Chelsea away (another guaranteed loss).

[Slim999]

I think - given that Man U and Chelsea appear to be back on the rise - and given that this means 6th is probably the best we can achieve this term ....

... I'd say it's time to address the elephant in the room.. a few s actually

1. Given PSR rules - we CANNOT buy our way into the top 4

2. Mitchell was correct - our recruitment set up isn't fit for purpose.

Look at the players Sunderland brought in this term and how it galvanised them.

We need to use our status as the richest club in the world to.

A. Have a scouting network with many tentacles befitting of that
B. Widen the net in our player search ( and stop focusing on UK so much)
C. Build up our academy & youth set ups to be on a par with the best in the country

We lost Issak last term - likely Tonali this , perhaps Tino

We need a reserve team / bench bubbling with young talent- ( like Chelsea ) - to bring on and protect the currently overworked legs of our first team

Don't disagree on any of that, but obviously that's all for long term benefit. Especially building up the academy (which seems to go through managers like nobodies business), even if we got that right now, it would be 10 years likely before we saw much benefit - tho of course something we'd love to see. Expanding the scouting network too will take time.

I'm not sure what our realistic aim is this season now. Our next 5 league games are:

Liverpool away - guaranteed loss.
Brentford home - MUST WIN
Spurs away - probably lose/draw
City away - guaranteed loss
Everton home - then becomes a must win

Given how tight the table is we will probably be in the bottom half before we go into facing a resurgent Man U at home and then a now in-form Chelsea away (another guaranteed loss).

Yes it all takes time

All the more reason for getting on with it .

Having a stronger youth network could help draw in young talent and the next Miley could emerge in next 2 to 3 years

All of this is a no brainer really

But im not getting the feeling that we've had a really strong brain at our helm.

Ever since Aswoorth went - its seemed vacuous

This needs to change or we wont progress further

[bodacious benny]

Don't disagree on any of that, but obviously that's all for long term benefit. Especially building up the academy (which seems to go through managers like nobodies business), even if we got that right now, it would be 10 years likely before we saw much benefit - tho of course something we'd love to see. Expanding the scouting network too will take time.

I'm not sure what our realistic aim is this season now. Our next 5 league games are:

Liverpool away - guaranteed loss.
Brentford home - MUST WIN
Spurs away - probably lose/draw
City away - guaranteed loss
Everton home - then becomes a must win

Given how tight the table is we will probably be in the bottom half before we go into facing a resurgent Man U at home and then a now in-form Chelsea away (another guaranteed loss).

Yes it all takes time

All the more reason for getting on with it .

Having a stronger youth network could help draw in young talent and the next Miley could emerge in next 2 to 3 years

All of this is a no brainer really

But im not getting the feeling that we've had a really strong brain at our helm.

Ever since Aswoorth went - its seemed vacuous

This needs to change or we wont progress further

If nothing else we have to be smarter from a PSR perspective. Look at how many players Chelsea develop / buy / sell for profit. Of course they make a mockery of the system, but they have found ways around it. We seem determined to tow the line rather than look for opportunities.