Vieira set for talks over Newcastle head coach position

[Goat]

I was also thinking, perhaps the interest in Vieira is partly because he hasn't had a senior managerial job yet and therefore hasn't really had a chance to build his own back-room staff which he'd want to bring with him, so it therefore makes it a lot easier to put Carver back into the assistant coach role.

Surely he's had a back-room staff at City?

It may not be much of one but it would certainly be a million times better than ours, and seeing as this would be his first senior managerial role that he'd want people that he knows and can trust.

Possibly, but it's only the youth squad. Managers tend to bring backroom staff along with them who they've worked with for years and built a solid working relationship.

I highly doubt that Vieira has built anything like that yet. Plus, even if he had, I think it would be a bit dodgy if we brought in a manager with zero senior management experience, and then he potentially brings in some backroom staff who have no senior management experience either.

[Seagull]

I'd rather we brought in an exciting, promising manager but if it's a choice between Vieira or McClaren/Carver then I would happily take him and fully back him.

[beatski]

He's surely well connected enough throughout Europe to find some quality candidates though.

[Seagull]

I'd rather we brought in an exciting, promising manager but if it's a choice between Vieira or McClaren/Carver then I would happily take him and fully back him.

Just realised this is the most boring comment in history.

[The Situation]

From a City fan

I am a City fan who watches a lot of our youth games and have seen Vieira up close so thought I might drop in and give an opinion.

The first thing to say is that players absolutely love him to bits and will run through walls for him. He is very good at managing the young players and developing their skills as players.

This sometimes leads to strange tactical decisions though. He will often see a winger doing really well and move a player who needs to think about his positioning move over to fight him. It sacrifices the potential results of the team but makes that player better and gives them experience in being uncomfortable.

Vieira is a big fan of players outside their comfort zone in order for them to face adversity, he is clever when it comes to the mental side of the game.

Tactically he isn't going to be a revolutionary of epic proportions like a Guardiola or anything but he is solid. He's very good as a representative of the club and understands the modern football organisation and media. He won't hit anybody on the side of the pitch or draw attention to himself by claiming he's the best person ever.

In our teams he likes to play mainly a 4-3-3 with the 3 up top rotating around taking it in turns to play either out wide or centrally and favours a defensive midfielder with a good range of passing to create counter attacks. With that said he tends to play possession based attacking football with a high defensive line and a focus on quick movement and quick attacks. He doesn't seem to like centre backs who are "big strong lads" in front of good footballers. He worked a lot with Jason Denayer who has just won Scottish Young Player of the Year at Celtic about this and made him focus more on working with the ball than getting stuck in and its made him a far better player who can work in midfield.

He experiments with 4-4-2 and 4-5-1 at times and a few times with a 3-4-3 but not enough to really say that that is how he plays. 4-3-3 then 4-5-1 for more battling games.

He is very big on everybody working all the time and will get on their backs from the touchline if necessary. He is quite an imposing figure at times but rarely a ranter and raver for the sake of it. We have a young winger called Brandon Barker who is your typical young English winger where they want to take everybody on and score lots of goals. Vieira has worked with him a lot on the defensive side to get him thinking about defensive shape instead of just driving forward at every opportunity and although he has a way to go to be called a cultured winger he is a better player.

That is probably the best thing about Vieira. He is an excellent man manager and hugely respected by the young people and by the first team. Vincent Kompany has said a lot that he asks Vieira for advice and when we won the FA Cup in 2010 and he was a player, everybody in the dressing room was lining up for selfies with Vieira including guys like Lescott and Silva who you would have thought were experienced enough not to be fanboys but everybody seems to be a Vieira fanboy. They used to call him the Godfather when he was a player at City.

I don't think that he will move unless it is the right job for him. He has been talking about moving on from our U21 team for a little bit but has always said that it has to be to the right club under the right circumstances. He will want time to put his ideas in motion and let him work with the players you have and make them better, as well as getting them on his way of thinking and Ashley seems like he will give him that.

[LONDONTOON]

f*** me reading that I want Vieira now.

[Double Agent Bruce a.k.a DAB]

I read this...

with a high defensive line and a focus on quick movement and quick attacks. He doesn't seem to like centre backs who are "big strong lads" in front of good footballers.

...and the only thought who comes to my mind is "Willo and Colo oooooooooooooout". Because the high defensive line, not because Willo and Colo are "big strong lads". Willo probably is the only player in the world, which is shorter when he jumps.

Btw, I also start to want him. Damn you, an anonymous Citeh's fan!

[cbrad NUFC]

**** me reading that I want Vieira now.

Wanted him before he read that. Comes across to me as a clever intelligent guy who will get the best of players. He will also want to improve the youth system having been hands on with that at Man City and has worked under some quality coaches like Mourinho and Wenger.

[dls]

f*** me reading that I want Vieira now.

Tough s***.

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[The Deluded Pablo Diego Jose Francisco]

f*** me reading that I want Vieira now.

Tough s***.

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Oh for f*** sake!....

[Somebodys pinched my sombrero]

McClaren can sod right off, the boring twastard.

[Amnesiac]

f*** me reading that I want Vieira now.

Tough s***.

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f***ing embarrassment he even gets an interview after knocking us back twice!

[biggeordiedave]

RTG has predictably gone from laughing at us for getting the unproven Vieira to laughing at us for missing out on the top manager Vieira.

[MultipleJesuses]

"Remy knocked us back twice, scum like him shouldn't be anywhere near the club. McClaren knocked us back twice? Oh that's okay then"

[LONDONTOON]

f*** this club,I am absolutely gutted.

[Tomski]

McClaren now favourite again with the bookmakers.

[Edt]

If Mcclaren gets the job

Once again it shows the disparity between the club and it's fans. There is no way we should be going for a guy who has failed to get a talented Derby squad into the playoffs, and it seems like everybody but the club are well aware of that.

I just want some exciting, risky football. Mcclaren is the definition of middle of the road, he's like the human equivalent of ready salted crisps.

[Don Sholeone]

[TJR]

Might as well just give Carver the job or even get Pardew back if we are just going to give it to f***ing McClaren. This club are a joke. Ran by absolute moronic cronuts.

[Speedo]

Might as well just give Carver the job or even get Pardew back if we are just going to give it to f***ing McClaren. This club are a joke. Ran by absolute moronic cronuts.

Uninspiring as McClaren is, he's better than those clowns. Also worth baring in mind his success - at Boro and Twente - he was a coach, and his failings - Forest, Wolfsburg, England - he was a manager. I still think he's a s****, uninspiring choice, but he's better than Pardew and Carver.