Bodacious Benny wrote:...and to think quite a lot of people thought Martinez wouldn't be good enough for us last year as he 'only' kept Wigan in the PL for donkeys years and never progressed them
I get the feeling that he could've finished 18th every year with a squad of 23 training cones and people still wouldn't have rated him.
To be fair, I had my doubts about Martinez, but he's done well this year. We'll have to wait and see how he does in the next couple of seasons before really judging him as a manager. Pardew finished 5th remember and look at him now,
Bodacious Benny wrote:...and to think quite a lot of people thought Martinez wouldn't be good enough for us last year as he 'only' kept Wigan in the PL for donkeys years and never progressed them
I get the feeling that he could've finished 18th every year with a squad of 23 training cones and people still wouldn't have rated him.
It would be impressive if he managed to finish 18th every year without getting relegated
Your boys have lost more games than you've own under Pards, getting an easy ride off the national press though.
“When you’ve got the ball 65-70% of the time it’s a football death for the other team. We’re not at that stage yet but that’s what we will get to. It’s death by football. You just suck the life out of them.” - Brendan Rodgers 2012
"People talk about pressure, but for us it's just enjoyment" - Brendan Rodgers 2014
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Jaiston wrote:Since Arsenal game at end of December.
Jeez, I hadn't seen that. That team at the top isn't bad. And that promising start seems to have glossed over the cracks in Pardew's season.
“When you’ve got the ball 65-70% of the time it’s a football death for the other team. We’re not at that stage yet but that’s what we will get to. It’s death by football. You just suck the life out of them.” - Brendan Rodgers 2012
"People talk about pressure, but for us it's just enjoyment" - Brendan Rodgers 2014
Minty Fresh wrote:
I get the feeling that he could've finished 18th every year with a squad of 23 training cones and people still wouldn't have rated him.
It would be impressive if he managed to finish 18th every year without getting relegated
Apparently he's had an argument with Ben Arfa again this weekend. Obviously blaming Hatem again for us getting mauled. Looks a cert he will be getting sold in the summer.
There have been two home games (Spurs/Man Utd) that have seen HBA be the centre of a dressing room argument with Pardew, despite only coming on for thirty minutes in both.
Yacob wrote:There have been two home games (Spurs/Man Utd) that have seen HBA be the centre of a dressing room argument with Pardew, despite only coming on for thirty minutes in both.
Yacob wrote:There have been two home games (Spurs/Man Utd) that have seen HBA be the centre of a dressing room argument with Pardew, despite only coming on for thirty minutes in both.
And despite having better attacking stats in that 30 minutes than certian players who play the full 90 and achieve nothing.
Funny how Gouffran is immune to being dropped or criticised. He works hard though... apparently?
Yacob wrote:There have been two home games (Spurs/Man Utd) that have seen HBA be the centre of a dressing room argument with Pardew, despite only coming on for thirty minutes in both.
And despite having better attacking stats in that 30 minutes than certian players who play the full 90 and achieve nothing.
Funny how Gouffran is immune to being dropped or criticised. He works hard though... apparently?
Does he s****. He's the first to throw the towel in when the going gets tough. His performance on Saturday was a disgrace, same for last Saturday. The few months previous haven't been much better. I wouldn't be bothered if he never played for us again. A lack of ability is acceptable and understandable with some players but a lack of effort is not acceptable, it doesn't matter who you are.
Not much effort across the board. I'm feeling in a forgiving mood towards Gouff because he put more than a fair shift in week after week until recently so I'm willing to accept that he has burnt out, it being his first full season of this sort of higher paced football. But the rest ...!
Never been big on the #PardewOut brigade... I always think sacking a manager should be a last resort. So many teams have sacked their manager and it's gone t*** up. The risk is massive. People keep comparing Pardew to Sir Bobby Robson but remember when Bobby was sacked? There was a vocal (albeit small) minority of our fans calling for his head after an especially poor start to the season. Those fans got their way and, ultimately, that led to our decline and subsequent relegation a few seasons late.So I'm normally dubious when it comes to calling for someone's head.
Having said all that, I'm finally sick of the odious cockney w*****. I'm sick of his bizarre tactical decisions. I'm sick of his smug little face when something goes right, how he get's all the credit, but as soon as something goes wrong the responsibility lies elsewhere. I'm sick of losing four nil.... the fact that we can't concede one goal without capitulating entirely. I'm sick of his antics, of his excuses and his voice. But most of all, I'm sick of the fact that under him I feel progressively more apathetic towards the club I've held a season ticket for for almost 3/4s of my life. So much so that I didn't even go to the Man U game.
If the club are planning on a massive overhaul in the summer,they may as well go top to bottom. Right now, for the first time, I'm with you.
#PardewOut
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