If Ryan Taylor was fit..

Colback's Orange Tufts · Thu Feb 20, 2014 11:11 am

Just watching Premier League years 2011/2012 and saw his fk vs the Mackems.

So hypothetically, if he was fit, would he get into our first 11. And where?

I'd suspect many people would say lb, since they don't rate Santon. But then you can't use his crossing.

I think Pards would like playing him on the right. We know from Sissoko he wants someone with defensive bearings out there and Raylor could do that (move Sissoko inside). I think it could work, Taylor's crossing and Debuchy's energy and runs overlapping.

Yacob · Post by **Yacob** » Thu Feb 20, 2014 11:20 am

He wouldn't be in the starting eleven.

Jonas · Post by **Jonas** » Thu Feb 20, 2014 11:34 am

When everyone is fit, he'd be on the bench but would definitely get game time, at this moment in time I can imagine he'd be playing centre mid.

overseasTOON · Post by **overseasTOON** » Thu Feb 20, 2014 11:34 am

He doesn't smile enough for me so doesn't deserve a starting XI place.

Coincidentally, an old cheffing colleague of mine was sacked because he didn't smile enough. If it was an open kitchen I could understand the reasoning a little bit but the kitchen was in a cellar and all the food went up in a dumbwaiter so no customer would ever know if he was a grumpy bastard or not.

He sued and won.

TheLittleGeordie · Post by **TheLittleGeordie** » Thu Feb 20, 2014 11:53 am

He wasn't even close to being good enough to start last time he was fit. Our team has improved while he has undoubtedly got worse since he's been injured. He would sometimes make the bench

Jaiston · Post by **Jaiston** » Thu Feb 20, 2014 11:54 am

Wouldn't be in the squad, so cannot vote.

Yacob · Post by **Yacob** » Thu Feb 20, 2014 11:58 am

He couldn't match Sissoko's creativity on the right. He's created 60 chances, fifth most in the league.

Jaiston · Post by **Jaiston** » Thu Feb 20, 2014 11:59 am

Yacob wrote:He couldn't match Sissoko's creativity on the right. He's created 60 chances, fifth most in the league.

But but Sissoko is the s***tiest player in the world and shouldn't be a footballer.

overseasTOON · Post by **overseasTOON** » Thu Feb 20, 2014 12:00 pm

Jaiston wrote:
Yacob wrote:He couldn't match Sissoko's creativity on the right. He's created 60 chances, fifth most in the league.
But but Sissoko is the s***tiest player in the world and shouldn't be a footballer.

He didn't say they were good chances.

Sheesh. What do you want? A wizard?

Toondes · Post by **Toondes** » Thu Feb 20, 2014 12:02 pm

Yacob wrote:He couldn't match Sissoko's creativity on the right. He's created 60 chances, fifth most in the league.

Is that stat true?

Yacob · Post by **Yacob** » Thu Feb 20, 2014 12:09 pm

Toondes wrote:
Yacob wrote:He couldn't match Sissoko's creativity on the right. He's created 60 chances, fifth most in the league.
Is that stat true?

It shocked me too, only Hazard, Silva, Ozil and Suarez have created more.

Speedo · Post by **Speedo** » Thu Feb 20, 2014 12:11 pm

I love Ryan Taylor, but he wouldn't make the match day squad in my opinion. He's not as good as Haidara or Dummett, let alone Debuchy or Santon.

Jaiston · Post by **Jaiston** » Thu Feb 20, 2014 12:11 pm

Yacob wrote:
Toondes wrote:
Is that stat true?
It shocked me too, only Hazard, Silva, Ozil and Suarez have created more.

Link?

Would be interesting to see what constitutes a chance created.

Seen the stat mentioned on a few forums but no link posted.

Toondes · Post by **Toondes** » Thu Feb 20, 2014 12:11 pm

Yacob wrote:
Toondes wrote:
Is that stat true?
It shocked me too, only Hazard, Silva, Ozil and Suarez have created more.

It shows how s**** we are at putting our chances away

Yacob · Post by **Yacob** » Thu Feb 20, 2014 12:18 pm

Jaiston wrote:
Yacob wrote: It shocked me too, only Hazard, Silva, Ozil and Suarez have created more.
Link?

Would be interesting to see what constitutes a chance created.

Seen the stat mentioned on a few forums but no link posted.

I have access to a stat centre and I really can't be bothered to print screen and post it up, but it is true

Colly · Post by **Colly** » Thu Feb 20, 2014 12:22 pm

TheLittleGeordie wrote:He wasn't even close to being good enough to start last time he was fit. Our team has improved while he has undoubtedly got worse since he's been injured. He would sometimes make the bench

Has he? That feels like a massive assumption. He's decent as a squad player and I'd certainly use him ahead of Dummett as the Santon swap even if just to have someone on the pitch who can take a corner. Nothing more than that mind, he's getting older.

Start against the mackems obviously.

Yacob · Post by **Yacob** » Thu Feb 20, 2014 12:26 pm

Colly wrote:
TheLittleGeordie wrote:He wasn't even close to being good enough to start last time he was fit. Our team has improved while he has undoubtedly got worse since he's been injured. He would sometimes make the bench
Has he? That feels like a massive assumption. He's decent as a squad player and I'd certainly use him ahead of Dummett as the Santon swap even if just to have someone on the pitch who can take a corner. Nothing more than that mind, he's getting older.

Start against the mackems obviously.

Two years being injured would make anybody worse.

Jaiston · Post by **Jaiston** » Thu Feb 20, 2014 12:39 pm

Colly wrote:
TheLittleGeordie wrote:He wasn't even close to being good enough to start last time he was fit. Our team has improved while he has undoubtedly got worse since he's been injured. He would sometimes make the bench
Has he? That feels like a massive assumption. He's decent as a squad player and I'd certainly use him ahead of Dummett as the Santon swap even if just to have someone on the pitch who can take a corner. Nothing more than that mind, he's getting older.

Start against the mackems obviously.

He's been out nearly two years, thinking he will have got worse is only realistic and incredibly likely.

RobLeesMagnificence · Thu Feb 20, 2014 12:49 pm

No. Wouldn't make the squad for me.

wolf_the_mag · Post by **wolf_the_mag** » Thu Feb 20, 2014 12:57 pm

Realistically, I think Ryan Taylors' Newcastle united career is over. I don't think he will recover enough to become a first team player again and at best he would be an emergency sub. It's a shame for the lad, because I loved his efforts and his ability to actually cross a ball, plus his set piece efforts.
Hopefully he's working with the players showing them how to be effective at getting crosses in and being effective at set pieces.

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